the green room: unrated x Primary (5/5/25)
Monday, May 5, 2025 5-8pm PT
New York City
We hosted the first of a new event series Iโm calling ๐ฉ๐๐ ๐๐ง๐๐๐ฃ ๐ง๐ค๐ค๐ข: ๐ช๐ฃ๐ง๐๐ฉ๐๐.
In partnership with some of North Americaโs top VC firms, ๐ฉ๐๐ง: ๐ช๐ฃ๐ง๐๐ฉ๐๐ is a space for the kind of no-bullsh*t conversations that only happen outside the boardroom โ honest, tactical, and off the record.
We kicked things off with our friends at Primary Venture Partners, featuring a keynote by Primary co-founder Benjamin Sun and a candid fireside chat between Jason Shuman (GP at Primary) and Andres Klaric (co-founder & co-CEO at Fuse).
Lots of sharp advice for founders. Here are a few highlights โ and if you were in the room, feel free to add yours:
๐ ๐ด๐ผ๐ผ๐ฑ ๐ถ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฎ ๐ถ๐ ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐ฒ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ด๐ต. You might be right that your product is the best โ but venture outcomes arenโt just about truth, theyโre about timing and belief. Market sentiment sets valuation, and if youโre reliant on outside capital, youโre exposed to those swings. Storytelling matters more than ever.
โ๐ฌ๐ผ๐โ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ด๐ผ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐๐ผ ๐บ๐ฎ๐ธ๐ฒ ๐ฎ ๐น๐ผ๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐ฎ๐๐๐๐บ๐ฝ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป๐ โ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐บ๐ผ๐๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐บ ๐๐ถ๐น๐น ๐ฏ๐ฒ ๐๐ฟ๐ผ๐ป๐ด.โ Thatโs a direct quote from Ben. The best founders are relentlessly curious and maniacal about learning. Primary looks for people who can adapt quickly, not just dream big.
๐ฃ๐ถ๐๐ผ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ถ๐ ๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐๐ถ๐๐ฎ๐ฏ๐น๐ฒ โ ๐ฒ๐บ๐ฏ๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ฒ ๐ถ๐. If you want to build something venture-scale, youโll need to let go of the original dream at some point. Listen to the market. Trade purity for clarity.
๐๐ถ๐ป๐ฑ ๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐๐๐๐ผ๐บ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐๐ต๐ผ ๐น๐ผ๐๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐ โ ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐ญ๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐๐ต๐ผ ๐ท๐๐๐ ๐น๐ถ๐ธ๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐. That early love is your signal. Donโt chase weak interest at scale โ chase strong conviction in small groups.
๐ฃ๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐๐ถ๐ฐ๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐ฝ๐ถ๐๐ฐ๐ต โ ๐ถ๐โ๐ ๐ฎ ๐บ๐๐๐ฐ๐น๐ฒ. Youโre not going to nail it the first time. Or the tenth. But it gets better every time you tell it. Your pitch is a living thing โ keep evolving it.
๐๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ท๐ฎ๐-๐ฑ๐ฟ๐ผ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ฒ๐
๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ฒ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ โ ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐ฒ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐๐ผ๐ป๐ฒ. One standout example: a founder in Korea made his team do interviews with developers at cafรฉs โ then he would โdrop byโ unexpectedly to make candidates feel special. When they wanted to hire someone, theyโd hand-deliver flowers to that personโs parents to win buy-in. Thatโs how you create moments people donโt forget โ even internally.
Huge thanks to Gabriella Monico for being an excellent collaborator and co-host and to everyone who came out. Weโll be doing more ๐ฉ๐๐ง: ๐ช๐ฃ๐ง๐๐ฉ๐๐ sessions, so DM me if you want to partner on one and/or attend the next one!


